IBM XPages Wiki – first thoughts and demo

IBM has released their Xpages Wiki on Open NTF as part of their new initiative to support the Open Source community. You can see Steve Castledines post here, Steve is the leading light behind the the Domino Blog template and I guess the Wiki Template.

Image:IBM XPages Wiki - first thoughts and demo

I think that this is a fantastic thing but a quick test of the template “out of the box” shows that either I have badly deployed it or it is still very much a work in progress in need of community input. I have added a list of issues here. Please note that it may be my “rapid” deployment that is the problem.

I have deployed a version >>>here<<<< for people to try. There is also a copy of the new 8.5 discussion template here. Please do not abuse them and also please note that hey are running on a fairly modest server ( P IV 3Ghz,1.5GB Ram, single disk, lots of bandwidth )

One of the stated aims of this blog is that it is not an opinion blog – there are others that do that better. Having said that here are some of my immediate thoughts :

This is a great move in freeing up the flow of useful examples from IBM. I have been looking at versions of this Wiki for some time thinking it would be nice to be allowed to use it – it will be a win – win for all hopefully

I am sure that this initial posting of the template is the tip of the iceberg and I may be rushing in too soon with an opinion !

I have been frustrated by the lack of support for the Blog template for some time. This is not any criticism Steve Castledine as he has put a lot of effort into providing information via his blog and I guess ( I have never spoken to him ) that he has had his frustrations as well. Yes there is some formal documentation but nowhere near what you would expect for a commercial “product”.

If IBM think that posting this template to Openntf will allow them to have an even lower level of documentation than the blog template then I honestly believe that this will backfire badly. Yes it is open source, yes the community needs to participate but none the less people customers and potential customers will try and use it and will judge IBM by its usefulness just the same way that people judge ( and admire ) other project chefs. IBM is a huge in comparison to all of the other participants in the Lotus Community and it needs to make a proportionate effort and follow its words “offer resources to invigorate the community ” with actions

Sean

First thoughts on the 8.5 discussion template

I deployed an 8.5 gold discussion template to the server. The new template is a big improvement but I did find some weird stuff !

The Holy Grail for me is “out of the box” rich text compatibility between browser and client. It was very refreshing to see this

Image:First thoughts on the 8.5 discussion template

Then I though “how did that image get there ?” Well after trying a few things I found that if you dragged and dropped a jpg onto the web form it displayed as an image in Notes BUT has not visible on the web form !

Image:First thoughts on the 8.5 discussion template

I wonder is this functionality that is in development ? It would be fantastic if images could be dragged and dropped such that they were visible on the web forms !

The other ( welcome ) surprise was this dialogue as I signed in – not so sure about the html tag showing through.

Image:First thoughts on the 8.5 discussion template

I have left the discussion database open for now at http://seancull.co.uk/public/discussion.nsf please do not abuse it.

The other thing that I found, and which surprised me, was that using an 8.02 client to create a new replica of the database in a new location on the 85 server did not work. I know some people will think that I am asking a lot to use a lower client to do this but this type of thing has usually worked in the past. I tried it a few times with no success, the only way to deploy the database was to create a new one using the 85 server as the template host – I wonder is this a constraint or am I doing something else wrong ?

Image:First thoughts on the 8.5 discussion template

Blog running on 8.5 Gold, well done IBM

Well done IBM, Notes 85 has been released today. I down loaded the server install ( 600Mb ) in about ten minutes and had the server up and running in another 20 minutes plus a reboot. It will take more work to convert the ODS etc.. but I can do that later on this server.

Image:Blog running on 8.5 Gold, well done IBM

There was a problem down loading the quick start files but hopefully this will be sorted soon

Image:Blog running on 8.5 Gold, well done IBM

The user clients are also there but I can’t see the designer client. Once that is released ( any ideas anyone ? ) then I will be looking to switch to 8.5 for my main client.

I would also like to try using a linux desktop on VMware but this seems to be a bit fraught. I tried to install Ubuntu ( I know its not supported for Notes ) and had to do some mods to get the networking and the VMware tools to work – not sure how it will go with Notes 8.5 – will post when I know more.